Todd Bartlem "..creating a misleading mythology and 'losing her humanity' for a 'pathological' pursuit of power..." a claim by Carly's ex husband Daily Mail July 15, 2015
..While Fiorina travels aboard a $30 million Gulfstream IV, employees joke they can't order books and supplies. ... HP employees Circa 2001
Dear Carly,
You seem to fall back on the Women card, frequently.
When I first learned of your existence I took the time to listen to you speak. I admit I found you an attention getter I listened and indeed wanted to hear more.
However. One thing about us women, is a very astute intuition. Or have you forgotten about that? My intuition is used in this case as it pertains to business. It was formed from years of working, parlaying, developing relationships, products and services. Most importantly working with and supporting others in all capacities.
We all gain from that knowledge and rapport an insight into all types and persona in the business world. I won't go into my rises an falls. We all have had them, this is about industrious women as a whole.
I personally find the most important aspect of my career, is the fact that I made lasting friends out of adversaries. At every point or turn there will be critics, turning them to friends is paramount, that is success. As most would attest to, those connections serve as a wonderful diverse field of reference and credential. Of course this is just another business women's experience in reference to playing nice with others.
If we want to measure another's success "my family" had attained a considerable sum once. Alas as well as some shaky financial times together. Why don't I picture you sticking with your family for very long during any difficult times?
Personally, I as so many fellow women held one thing as our first priority, our family. Most of us at all level of success held ourselves back at some point or time for our family as their personal best course to keep a loving family functioning together. Men have also reciprocated to help their wives attain their successes. The main concern is a parent or in some cases a familial member will raise our children, not just use an all day care or a nanny. Yes there are exceptions. But they are not breaking up families to get to the top, they are struggling to better themselves. A very big difference.
Carly you never had that concern or any barrier. So you had every advantage to make it as a fully independent women. Yet you seem to think you deserve a pat on the back for advantage scoring, sleeping with the boss scoring?
Recently really looking at and around you. I posted several times, I was not sure of who you really are. I raised questions about you, such as the thought that wouldn't others who you helped rise along with you, be the best statement of your alleged successes.
To date Carly I had not heard from, or of, one. That intuition nagged me from day one as you used so much bravado and self congratulation for your claim of success. That intuition did not mesh well with what I was hearing. There was so much lacking.
I won't go into the many ways women, especially personable, caring, inclusive ones work together to achieve their best.
There are also women who, take the easy route, I am sure you get my point. Most don't. Most especially those that have been pushing aside advances all their life.
The really un-sisterly, are the ones we all have run into along our path. They see and treat others, especially women as their personal adversary. Steal their ideas take credit for their work and in general do everything, and use ever tool available to oust any and all competition.
If others take the time to do as little as a google, they can learn reams about you. Not from all the pages filled with and repeating your sanctimonious view, dig and find it from the mouths and experiences of others.
That part was the soft hit.
I warn you I am losing the lady play nice position, to tell you what you look like, at least to me.
First and foremost you somehow managed to step over or heeled into the others to get into the top tier debate. Negative points from me as we have no idea what you USED to achieve that?
I mentioned women putting their FAMILY first. I supported my husband and his advancement at every turn. I did it for the family unit. If you had ever given birth you would understand that the first born changes you immensely and permanently. From the overwhelming love and joy to the protective lioness trigger. From that birth you are devoting everything to your child and in my case all four of them equally.
I now learn you never experienced that. I as all appreciate the wonderful step parents out there. Some can step in and better the child's life by care and love for their new responsibility. Some can even match or overtake the birth mothers original devotion.
However you, nor they will never have fully experienced the: no words can truly express, bond. The heartache, the literal pain felt when YOUR child is suffering or harmed.
I did however learn about the mother of the child your family lost. My sincere sympathies to all who loved her. With all due respect you spoke volumes you never intended, by not offering to the world the child's mother.
Again I am well aware parenting can be a grandmother, aunt, adoption, foster and step parenting. But, Carly the child's MOTHER Patricia, is alive and well. The mother Patricia had custody of both of the children from your second husbands marriage. She raised that child through to adulthood. SHE lost a chuck of her heart. You do not utter a word about her?
I will offer this for the child's mother, her words about that. Your claims of helping to raise her two daughters.
"'There are two sides to every story. That's not how I remember it. Lori was my daughter and I grieve her every day.' ...Patricia Fiorina
That speaks volumes about her character, while literally a library worth of information about the REAL Carly.
What I find most repulsive about you is even using a death in the family.
I can imagine many on the panel knows of just such a loss, was heartbroken and full of self questioning. Whether sibling, cousin, aunt, uncle or friends who they lost in connection to drugs or mental illness.
Loss of a loved one is safe common ground. Hence you can imagine or did you? The impact that comes from the telling of the loss of a child, breaking down barriers and the fully intended creation of compassion with all who felt that pain.
So you used the sympathy card. But it was actually a very cold grasp at an opportunity period.
Not known by people listening is the fact it was not a "child" you claimed to have lost. It was a 35 year old adult woman. I do not intend to take anything away from what you may have felt I do again offer sympathies. However there is an extreme difference between losing an adult and a child.
Most would use the term son or daughter, at that age. NOT child.
You purposely used "a child" in that sense, for all to envision the loss of an assumed young person. Intent on garnering the feelings relating to the image of a young person, a child never having the chance at life. The idea that you could not reach and save a young person from their demons.
Again a death is a very personal painful loss, we all experience. This loss was a troubled 35 year old ADULT woman. So from your use I can play harder here because I see you as a very calculating opportunist.
You lost someone you never raised, whose family you broke up, you in fact may even have been a part of this woman's difficulty later in life. This loss, honestly I imagine at that point in her life and yours. Lori was most likely not high on your caring list, that sense of competition, me first , you come across as the type who would have cut her off from everything years ago.
Sounds hard and cruel. But believe me far too many had lost a CHILD and forever will feel angst for the loss of a lives full potential. Especially accidental overdose or from suicide. The quilt can kill you as well as the heartache. No-one ever recovers or forgets.
Now to the REAL rise to fame. So yes admit it you took "the route", a lady, a mother and wife would NOT.You had an affair with the boss.
Here is the trouble as that relates to you. Without any doubt YOU were the aggressor, you probably pulled every trick in the seduction book to get into his pants and to make him stay.
Honestly sweet-cakes you are not attractive in any sense of the word, let alone charming nor do you possess the body of someone that gets wolf whistles.
What you are Carly is a woman who broke up TWO marriages. Intent on personal GAIN you broke up a family . You did so deliberately to climb the ladder. To the women like me, that is the most offensive thing a women can do, let alone in the working world.
Now we back up a bit. because I completely forgot about your meager background growing up?
A grand piano? That is a way bigger deal than a silver spoon. It is an old New England family tradition to give a new child brought into the world a silver spoon. A Grand Piano is not any tradition I EVER heard of? I wonder if you have any idea of what the average humble, middle-class family is.
I am really stuck on that Grand Piano. Growing up I had many friends who did indeed have pianos. Being part of a humble middle-class family I did not. I am grateful for the exposure because I loved the piano. I did get to learn and play among a few things. Heart & Soul. Forever a favorite because it was played with a friend. Those friends lived in mansions we lived in small home. So I imagine there was no PB&J lunches for you either.
I wish I had your exact quote, alas you purposely paint a humble childhood. Bless your heart.
Your mother .. was a successful and talented artist. Did you love your mother? Seriously are even you capable of it? Because I would have been so proud of her. Yet she and her talent isn't mentioned? We have to learn of her from somewhere else? (*one of several wikis)
What I am surprised about is the fact that you don't plug her talent to hype any remains of her work you still possess. I mean you are coming from a how to garner a fortune off the backs of others, mindset..
More than just surprised I am left wondering why? At the expense to maintain a fallacy of humble beginnings you are foregoing creating an interest in her work, with the hopes of increasing their value and worth to you.
Your father ..was appointed a Federal District Judgeship by President Nixon.
Prior to that his humble positions were in academia the likes of which includes: Yale, Stanford and Duke.
Your ex-husband had some interesting things to say about you and your relationship. I again skimmed this. The brunt of it is unflattering and one line* says it all. The next shows just how dead on a women's instinct is.
"...'She is pathologically narcissistic and all she cares about is her ...'"
"...'I got kind of suspicious of her towards the end of the marriage because she had no old friends. She had nobody that she knew in the past, and I thought, "God that's kind of weird."'
The quotes were *Published July 15 and 16th by the Daily Mail
I have since found an abundance of information about you. In fact I was not too far off in stating a library full. Given the time someone else could go on forever.
However I hope this is noticed and taken for what it is. ONE woman's personal opinion of who and what you are as a business person.
I only see you as a cunning opportunist in the business world.
I do not consider you a working mother, or a valued family member in any sense of the word.
So Carly you get big negatives from me personally for using a family death in such a calculating way to one up Rand Paul. I am actually repulsed by that move.
Just as well as the gender card. Every women heard what you said. That obnoxious assumption of bringing in every women from around the world to your defense.
Specifically for those two distinct places that you went leaving out specifics. It is not like you could not fit it in.
Your demeanor was quite the show. Stepping over everyone. You made the guys on stage appear the most polite and eloquent beings on earth. You gave the impression of a bull in a china shop shoving everyone around.
You are no role model. You are what most women in the business world object to. As far advancement your personal actions are what makes it more difficult for other women to advance. You lay literally, the ground work they have to at every attempt get around.
I am no writer.Obviously. I just want others to learn a bit more about someone I feel is very disingenuous.
Links mentioned as well as a few others found...
Daily Mail
HP employees Circa 2001
Mention of Lori Fiorina's Death at age 35
Failure Website CEO in the tech business? Just where did her talent lay?
Her wiki I assume
I found this very questionable. A simplistic puff piece as if a hired PR team wrote it .It paints her in an entirely different light from what HP employees experienced during her period there. especially when you see the next link. Well money can buy friends after all.
Carly Fiorina presidential campaign, 2016 via WSJ
“chutzpah...no self-awareness, no humility.” Former HP Exec Jean-Louis Gassée
“It’s an offensive joke that someone with such a poor record running a company wants to be president,” Former HP Exec Jean-Louis Gassée
HP's Carly Fiorina era is finally over...good riddance (Circa 2011)
So many Carly Fiorina *wikis. Free Publicity?
I had glanced at other sites, most were or are related to her *political opposition and I decided against using those.
Most is mis-information such as blaming her for the HP spying fiasco Which is *Not true at all, in fact it was she who they had originaly spied on.
There is a world of Carly articles. Great at personal PR.
Carly Fiorina presidential campaign, 2016 via WSJ
“Yep, I got fired,” she said in a recent interview before her official announcement. “I’ll stand on my record and run on my record all day long.” ...Carly Fiorina Via WSJ
Sounded so familiar to this other Candidate
Carly has nothing but praise for Hillary
One wiki page I lost has an extensive bibliography all about Carly It was under a search term "Carly wikis"
Several wikis Yes curious.